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Episode 3: The What, When, Why (and Why Not) to Refer

Check out this episode of Art of the Referral, with Eric Ström, JD, PhD, where we discuss legal and ethical considerations of mental health referrals. As a licensed, practicing clinician, ethics expert, AND attorney at law, Eric is a POWERHOUSE of knowledge. We cover topics such as the importance of collaboration, the need for clear referral guidelines, and the potential risks and benefits of waitlists.

Episode 6: Referring to Couples Counseling 101​

Anna O'Brien speaks with Elizabeth Earnshaw, a licensed family and marriage therapist, about the nuances of couples counseling compared to individual therapy. They discuss the importance of referrals, the impact of relationship health on overall well-being, and the need for therapists to recognize their limitations. Elizabeth emphasizes the significance of collaboration between therapists and the need to overcome the stigma surrounding couples counseling. The conversation also touches on resources for therapists to better understand couples counseling and how to approach referrals effectively.

Episode 2: It's Not You. . .It's Me!

It's important to recognize when something is truly outside of our scope of training and expertise. Meet Erin Berenz, PhD. She's the founder of Rebound Health and trauma researcher, expert, and practicing psychologist. In this episode, we explore countertransference in therapy and its relationship to referring out.

Episode 5: Eating Disorder Treatments: Referral 101 - Part I and II

Host Anna O'Brien and guest James Runyan, LPC, MS, MFT, CEDSS, f.IAEDP, delve into the complexities of eating disorders, exploring treatment modalities, the importance of family dynamics, and the personality traits that often accompany these disorders. They emphasize the need for effective communication and collaboration among mental health professionals to provide comprehensive care for patients and their families.

Episode 1: Introducing Art of the Referral

In this first episode, Anna introduces Art of the Referral and describes the purpose and content of the series.


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Episode 4: Exploring the Frontier of Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy

In this podcast, Christopher Brown, LICSW, speaks on "Exploring the Frontier of Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy." With ketamine and other psychedelic clinics popping up seemingly overnight, there is so much we need to educate ourselves on as providers. I turned to Christopher for answers because of his experience as an EMDRIA-certified provider and experienced practitioner and thought leader in the realm of psychedelic-assisted therapy. Join us while we learn about considerations, ethically, clinically, and legally, of the administration and best practice of the use of psychedelics in treatment.

Episode 7: Undiagnosed Autism in Adult Women: Recognizing the Impact and Indications a Referral is Necessary

Host Anna O'Brien and Azlen Theobald, discuss the nuances of autism spectrum disorder (ASD), particularly focusing on gender differences in diagnosis and symptom presentation. They explore the challenges faced by women with autism, including the subtleties of social communication, the impact of late diagnosis, and the phenomenon of camouflaging. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurate diagnosis and the need for clinicians to be more aware of the signs of autism in women, as well as the implications for treatment and support.